Gallery director unfazed by project’s record of conflict



Freshly appointed senior director of the government’s proposed National Aboriginal Art Gallery (NAAG), Tracy Puklowski, first came to Alice Springs two years ago for the national museums conference.

The strongly-voiced demands across many of its sessions – that First Nations people be allowed to speak for themselves in the sector, taking the lead in representing their cultures – provided an apposite starting point for our conversation.

At the conference, Franchesca Cubillo, a Yanuwa, Larrakia, Bardi, and Wardaman woman from the Top End who happens to be the co-chair of the reference group for the NAAG, put it like this:

I’m really at the point, having worked in museums and art galleries for 35 years now, of wanting to see more than opportunities, of wanting to see more than multiple voices. I’m wanting to see Indigenous spaces run by Indigenous people for Indigenous and non-Indigenous, with Indigenous agency at the forefront …

My challenge that I make to all of you, please don’t continue to look at multiple voices in your spaces,  please support Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to have their own voice in their own institution telling their own stories. It is 250 years … I think we’ve come to the point where the patience is running out.

Born in the UK and raised largely in New Zealand, Ms Puklowski is not Indigenous. How much of a barrier does she think this will be in leading the development of the NAAG?

This is never going to be a comfortable question. She referred it to the department (of Arts and Culture), as a question, she said, “about the recruitment and appointment process”. But once she takes up the job, on 24 May, it will be a constant subtext, when it’s not to the fore.

Ms Puklowski with Dr Aunty Patsy Cameron, co-chair of the QVMAG Aboriginal Reference Group. Photo by Minette Brewin.

She did say that she is really looking forward to drawing on everything learned in her career “to ensure what we have is an incredible expression not only of Indigenous art and visual and cultural expression, but that provides leadership opportunities for our First Nations people.

“It needs to be a ground up approach,” she said. “We need to have our First Nations people involved in all aspects of this project.”

But clearly, for the time being, not at the top.

Next uncomfortable subject: the significant local disharmony surrounding the project and how she will overcome it.

She would surely have informed herself about it, but to make clear what I was talking about I outlined the basics: the persistent dissent from a notable number of (not all) custodians and native title holders around the government’s proposed location for the gallery; the bad blood caused by the government’s compulsory acquisition from the Town Council of Anzac Oval, necessary to make the proposed location viable; and the unhappy parting of ways with the original steering committee, co-chaired by Hetti Perkins and Philip Watkins.

In relation to the site for the gallery, again she referred me to the department, but said: “I know that this been quite a journey.”

When she was in Alice Springs recently, finalising her recruitment and introducing her husband to the place before their relocation, she said she talked informally to a number of people, asking them what they thought about the project.

“The overwhelming sense I got is people really want this to move forward, they just want to get on with it, they want to see this happen.”

Ms Puklowski welcomed on her first day by QVMAG Aboriginal Reference co-chair Dave Mangenner Gough. 

To turn the ship around – and it’s about as stuck at the moment as that Japanese container ship was in the Suez Canal – she spoke again of drawing on the lessons learned from everything she’s done, the most significant being her 10 years with Te Papa, the bicultural Museum of New Zealand. 

She described it as “one of world’s most ground-breaking museums from a cultural perspective”. From its founding in 1998 it “rewrote the museum book”, making an “amazing impact on museums and galleries around the world in how they really approach what they do”.

It’s about more than respect for Maori culture, rather their world view imbues every single aspect of its operation: staffing, policies, content, interpretation, architecture. Te Papa embodies the Maori culture, she said.

There and in other roles she “learned a lot about listening”, a practice that will guide what she does in Mparntwe.

“It becomes your normal, it becomes how you work, that’s a huge part of my philosophy as somebody working in this space.”

On the practical front at Te Papa, she led the development of a major exhibition Gallipoli: the scale of our war. It was “a significant challenge” for the bicultural museum; it required “working in a different way”, including with the film industry, to capture all the stories “that would give expression to museum’s values”.

The show went on to become Te Papa’s most popular ever – saying something in a museum that already gets 1.5m visitors through its doors annually.

The experience underlined Ms Puklowski’s belief in the power of cultural and visual expression, “to tell stories to heal, to provide faith for communities”.

Again on her first day at QVMAG, Ms Puklowski with Launceston Mayor Albert van Zetten, Aboriginal Reference Group members Dave Mangenner Gough and Lola Greeno, and local Aboriginal community members.

She has also sat on quite a few boards, which has developed her interest in “the interface between tourism and culture, and the role that museums and galleries and cultural institutions can play in transforming towns, and really creating different kind of outcomes for communities”.

While the town itself is “a living art gallery”, the bricks and mortar gallery will provide opportunities, employment, social cohesion: “It’s so much bigger than a place with beautiful paintings to look at. It’s about way, way more than that. That’s what really drives my interest as a professional and as a person.”

She will be leaving her job in Launceston where she has headed up, since September 2018, the Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery – Australia’s largest regional cultural institution – as well as driving a cultural strategy for the city.

She emphasised her experience of working with the Aboriginal Reference Group for QVMAG, adding to her “pretty full tool kit” for taking up the challenge of building the NAAG from scratch.

Its lack of a collection is not necessarily a disadvantage, she said, but rather an “opportunity to think laterally”, citing the experience of the National Museum of African American History and Culture, which built its collection by going into the community and taking a different approach to story telling. Her visit to that museum – one of several dealing with memorialisation and difficult stories, relevant to her role at the National Army Museum of New Zealand – “blew my mind”.

“It’s places like that that provide me with inspiration to lead.”

On managing the relationship to the Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre that is being built in Adelaide – much further advanced that the Alice Springs project – she said it is “fundamentally about complementarity”.

“We’ve got that in Tasmania at the moment”, she said, with the relationship between the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery as well as MONA in Hobart and the QVMAG in Launceston.

“It’s not about oneupmanship” but rather about how they complement one another, what each does that is unique, but together collectively provide an “amazing national experience”.

“One of most unique elements” about the NAAG is “where it is, in the heart of the country, near to where the Uluru Statement was delivered.

“That says something about the placement of this project.”

As for making real the vision behind its proclaimed status as a “national” institution, Ms Puklowski said that “vision emerges from talking to people, talking to community”. It’s not the director who “waves a magic wand”.

But she did point to the significant opportunity represented by digital communication and art. She was involved in digital collecting in her position at the National Library of New Zealand and sees it as an “incredibly exciting space for us”.

She also spoke of the potential for the gallery to offer qualifications in museum studies (at Certificate IV level) as she was involved with in New Zealand. That too would “set us aside”, give the project “new meaning”.

“It needs to be a place where we can help people develop their careers, their skills, and determine what they want their future to look like.”

Photo at top: Ms Puklowski at Qeeen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery. All photos supplied.


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Last updated 19 April 2021, 6.42am (links, caption added).


  1. “Vision emerges from talking to people, talking to community.” Not in the NT.
    Museum Studies is an inter-disciplinary field of study that encompasses museum history, theory and practice.
    The program delivers the professional training required for those interested in pursuing careers in the museum and heritage industry whilst at the same time, providing for those already working in this sector, the opportunity to develop or enhance existing skills and interests.
    Are we talking about the National Aboriginal Art Gallery or about a museum? We do have two museums in Alice, one in the mall and one in Araluen. May those certificates courses could be done there?
    Could we do same?
    The South Australian Museum’s Indigenous Australian collection of 28,000 artefacts stands as one of the world’s most significant accumulations of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultural and historical material.
    Despite the depth and extraordinary value of this collection – much of it drawn from the vast portion of north and Central Australia that became the Northern Territory in 1911 – the museum is renowned for its conservatism.
    In a significant first challenge to the institution’s orthodoxy, its new head anthropologist, John Carty, has made a special appointment of the acclaimed Aboriginal curator Glenn Iseger-Pilkington, to reconnect the Indigenous collection with country and peoples.

  2. She sounds interested in involving Indigenous people so she needs to listen to where they want to gallery built. Build it south of The Gap and that will show her genuine support of the Aboriginal people. Listen to the proper custodians of the land.

  3. I have memories of very interesting Aboriginal stories and explanations of culture, as well as pictures etc in the Mbantua Gallery (used to be the upstairs section) and Paul Ah Chee’s gallery. People for the new director to talk to perhaps?


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